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Post by Tuskvegas on Aug 2, 2017 2:27:14 GMT 10
Edited to say that does anyone else notice in older vlogs that she acted like a child around Josh? She always has these doe eyes and soft voice, and she had very childish mannerisms. Now she's a queefing, shouting, screeching character. It's so strange seeing her old videos... Yep. I think it was part of her act to trick him into thinking she was a sweet nice Christian girl who ultimately wanted the same things he wanted. I guess she was being who she thought he wanted her to be. I actually wonder if it was more for fans than josh. Kids would think relationship goals at her being all cutie patooty. I measn josh put on a bit of a Front. She probs did too
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Post by trubbled on Aug 2, 2017 2:35:53 GMT 10
Yep. I think it was part of her act to trick him into thinking she was a sweet nice Christian girl who ultimately wanted the same things he wanted. I guess she was being who she thought he wanted her to be. Interesting... if that's the case, why though? Why can't she beg her way to a guy she actually likes and is willing to stay monogamous to and start a family with? Why waste all that time and invest into a relationship, move in, get married... then all of a sudden coldly step away like she never liked him in the first place. The timing seems very weird to me I can't figure it out. I can't help but think that something (perhaps, feelings, a person...etc) came up out of the blue that changed her mind a year into the marriage. Any theories/Conclusions? Because girls are weird? Lol. She probably did like him back then. And she was young and inexperienced. She probably thought she had to act like that to keep him interested. when my sister was younger, she would like/listen to whatever kind of music her current boyfriend listened to. Colleen probably got tired of acting like miss Christian perfect, and started bottling up her feelings about that. Then she started resenting josh because she couldn't be the girl he wanted. And then it all exploded. plus she cheated! Lol. My sister(same one I just spoke about) would not break up with a guy until she had another guy lined up.
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Post by AK713 on Aug 2, 2017 2:44:19 GMT 10
Interesting... if that's the case, why though? Why can't she beg her way to a guy she actually likes and is willing to stay monogamous to and start a family with? Why waste all that time and invest into a relationship, move in, get married... then all of a sudden coldly step away like she never liked him in the first place. The timing seems very weird to me I can't figure it out. I can't help but think that something (perhaps, feelings, a person...etc) came up out of the blue that changed her mind a year into the marriage. Any theories/Conclusions? Because girls are weird? Lol. She probably did like him back then. And she was young and inexperienced. She probably thought she had to act like that to keep him interested. when my sister was younger, she would like/listen to whatever kind of music her current boyfriend listened to. Colleen probably got tired of acting like miss Christian perfect, and started bottling up her feelings about that. Then she started resenting josh because she couldn't be the girl he wanted. And then it all exploded. plus she cheated! Lol. My sister(same one I just spoke about) would not break up with a guy until she had another guy lined up. I agree with this. I'd also add that Colleen seems like the type of person who maybe had the "timeline" of her life planned out. successful career by age XX, married by age YY, Kids by age ZZ. I think she did love Josh but maybe not as much as he loved her - but he was ready for marriage and it fit her timeline. I was that type of girl until life said "f your timelines" and I realized I didn't want to settle for something just to meet a deadline I set for myself. I also have a friend who was that type of person, she all but gave an ultimatum to her then bf to propose, he did, they got married and 1 year and a newborn later they got divorced because she was so unhappy. (SN: she had also had a prospective guy in her mind - who is now her husband - but he wasn't the cause of the divorce)
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Post by trubbled on Aug 2, 2017 2:55:37 GMT 10
That does make sense. I think a huge problem with Colleen was that when her timeline was changing/she said f my timeline, she wasn't honest with josh about it. She was still saying she was ready to have a baby after HBO.
y'all. Honesty is so important in a relationship. Also, your partner is not a mind reader. He/she doesn't know what you're thinking.
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Post by verukasalt on Aug 2, 2017 3:18:29 GMT 10
Interesting... if that's the case, why though? Why can't she beg her way to a guy she actually likes and is willing to stay monogamous to and start a family with? Why waste all that time and invest into a relationship, move in, get married... then all of a sudden coldly step away like she never liked him in the first place. The timing seems very weird to me I can't figure it out. I can't help but think that something (perhaps, feelings, a person...etc) came up out of the blue that changed her mind a year into the marriage. Any theories/Conclusions? Yep.. Erik came up. I think at one time, Toeleen loved, as much as she's able to, Josh. She "won" him and got confortable with him and secure in their relationship. Im guessing there was serious chemistry between her and Erik at the auditions and any pre-production meetings. That seems to coincide with the time toeleen stated acting odd. She's had Josh on pretty much every tour she has been on for years..but all of a sudden, she isn't demanding he go to canada with her? In fact, discoraging it and pushing him to commit to his own tour. Little miss can't be alone is suddenly fine with moving to canada for 5 months without her husband? Im in the camp of Colleen cheated.. She was attracted to Erik, she enjoyed the flirting and teasing and excitement of a new challenge (Erik). I think maybe she would have been okay to keep it on the downlow until Erik committed fully..but maybe Chris/Rachel/herMom insisted it would be death to her career if she were outted as cheating. Or maybe that josh could get more in a divorce once he caught on. Whatever the reason, I don't think it was anything but a self-serving reason...not a moral one. So the 'divorce had to happen'. Women generally do not leave a marriage until they have a new fella.
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Post by beamishly on Aug 2, 2017 3:45:16 GMT 10
I unsubbed from all her channels on YT but her high vlog came up in my rec's, and boredom got the better of me. If her shoulder is that bad, shouldn't she need surgery, or at the very least physical therapy? If she tore muscles, she needs to let them heal and then work on strengthening them and having things move in the correct ways... and if she was really in that much pain, she wouldn't vlog with that arm. If it was as bad as she makes it out to be she wouldn't be able to hold up that camera, every single day. Anything for clicks and views, I guess. I think she likes having the option of using her busted shoulder to get out of doing stuff she doesn't want to do (such as hugging fans and literally anything physical) and to get attention and sympathy. That's why she's getting a shoulder treatment that most likely does shit all.
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Post by meg91 on Aug 2, 2017 3:51:13 GMT 10
TIL Josh still follows Trent, and liked one of his weird tweets from yesterday. Can I just say that I've always liked Trent? He seems genuinely kind and just sort of went along with the family vids they threw him into, yet mainly did his own thing for the most part. I feel bad for him in many ways, but in my opinion the more you're left out of the youtube drama, the better. Josh seemed to be one of the few that actually treated him like a real person who didn't either a) ignore him or b) start every intro with 'Trent is deaf' or something. I haven't watched any of her videos in a couple years. Has he been seen at all?? I did see the cochlear implant one which was nice. Interesting how they later mentioned he turns it off a lot because of weird sounds (?) or something. Probably just to avoid all the outside-voice-indoors stuff going on there lol. But I'm also saying all this because I got a very, very bad vibe from Jessica early on. It was a Christmas video probably from 2010 or something, and Colleen was explaining her family tree situation basically. Jessica came out of nowhere (seemingly) all offended that people would ever assume Trent was her husband. I'm already a pretty highly sensitive person, so that could have been nothing, but something about her reaction really rubbed me the wrong way, so I've just had a bad feeling about her for a very long time. Plus that one time they went to DCA and 3-year-old Bailey goes up to the green army man to announce to the crowd "I don't eat sugar". I feel like they do most of that stuff to be hip SoCal parents or something for weird bragging rights considering they eat sugar themselves.
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Post by astew12305 on Aug 2, 2017 3:56:14 GMT 10
I tore my rotator cuff a couple years ago, and it took a solid year of using it as little as possible before it started to feel better. And it's very easy to irritate, even 3 years later. I couldn't do anything with it, carry my purse even. I had finals twice while it was injured, and after handwriting a 3 page essay my shoulder would be on fire, to the point of feeling sick to my stomach. Even just walking used muscles that hurt. The pain would creep up my neck and down my back, and the only relief I'd get is laying with my arm above my head (I couldn't lift my arm that high, I had to move it with my other arm and prop it up). There is NO way it's as bad as she makes it sound if she is vlogging with that arm. I literally could not text with my right hand for months.
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Post by gossipgranny on Aug 2, 2017 4:04:21 GMT 10
TIL Josh still follows Trent, and liked one of his weird tweets from yesterday. Can I just say that I've always liked Trent? He seems genuinely kind and just sort of went along with the family vids they threw him into, yet mainly did his own thing for the most part. I feel bad for him in many ways, but in my opinion the more you're left out of the youtube drama, the better. Josh seemed to be one of the few that actually treated him like a real person who didn't either a) ignore him or b) start every intro with 'Trent is deaf' or something. I haven't watched any of her videos in a couple years. Has he been seen at all?? I did see the cochlear implant one which was nice. Interesting how they later mentioned he turns it off a lot because of weird sounds (?) or something. Probably just to avoid all the outside-voice-indoors stuff going on there lol. But I'm also saying all this because I got a very, very bad vibe from Jessica early on. It was a Christmas video probably from 2010 or something, and Colleen was explaining her family tree situation basically. Jessica came out of nowhere (seemingly) all offended that people would ever assume Trent was her husband. I'm already a pretty highly sensitive person, so that could have been nothing, but something about her reaction really rubbed me the wrong way, so I've just had a bad feeling about her for a very long time. Plus that one time they went to DCA and 3-year-old Bailey goes up to the green army man to announce to the crowd "I don't eat sugar". I feel like they do most of that stuff to be hip SoCal parents or something for weird bragging rights considering they eat sugar themselves. I was bunk that vlog was mentioned a few threads back. It was the first time I'd seen that vlog. Jessica was very rude about the whole thing. I didn't look at the tweet Josh liked yesterday but I was happy that they still seem to be friendly and that Trent isn't caught in the drama
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Post by lurker on Aug 2, 2017 4:05:10 GMT 10
Interesting... if that's the case, why though? Why can't she beg her way to a guy she actually likes and is willing to stay monogamous to and start a family with? Why waste all that time and invest into a relationship, move in, get married... then all of a sudden coldly step away like she never liked him in the first place. The timing seems very weird to me I can't figure it out. I can't help but think that something (perhaps, feelings, a person...etc) came up out of the blue that changed her mind a year into the marriage. Any theories/Conclusions? Yep.. Erik came up. I think at one time, Toeleen loved, as much as she's able to, Josh. She "won" him and got confortable with him and secure in their relationship. Im guessing there was serious chemistry between her and Erik at the auditions and any pre-production meetings. That seems to coincide with the time toeleen stated acting odd. She's had Josh on pretty much every tour she has been on for years..but all of a sudden, she isn't demanding he go to canada with her? In fact, discoraging it and pushing him to commit to his own tour. Little miss can't be alone is suddenly fine with moving to canada for 5 months without her husband? Im in the camp of Colleen cheated.. She was attracted to Erik, she enjoyed the flirting and teasing and excitement of a new challenge (Erik). I think maybe she would have been okay to keep it on the downlow until Erik committed fully..but maybe Chris/Rachel/herMom insisted it would be death to her career if she were outted as cheating. Or maybe that josh could get more in a divorce once he caught on. Whatever the reason, I don't think it was anything but a self-serving reason...not a moral one. So the 'divorce had to happen'. Women generally do not leave a marriage until they have a new fella. Do you have any idea when the timelines were like when auditions were and the chemistry reads etc?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 4:06:28 GMT 10
I unsubbed from all her channels on YT but her high vlog came up in my rec's, and boredom got the better of me. If her shoulder is that bad, shouldn't she need surgery, or at the very least physical therapy? If she tore muscles, she needs to let them heal and then work on strengthening them and having things move in the correct ways... and if she was really in that much pain, she wouldn't vlog with that arm. If it was as bad as she makes it out to be she wouldn't be able to hold up that camera, every single day. Anything for clicks and views, I guess. I think she likes having the option of using her busted shoulder to get out of doing stuff she doesn't want to do (such as hugging fans and literally anything physical) and to get attention and sympathy. That's why she's getting a shoulder treatment that most likely does shit all. Even if she did physical therapy, I don't think she'd follow through with it. What about that livestream someone posted recently where she was playing the ukulele and Josh came in and got angry at her? She's not very good at looking after herself, so I doubt she would do the exercises or rest it. Also agree that it's an excuse not to do things.
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Post by ultraviolet on Aug 2, 2017 4:06:40 GMT 10
Just watched the Bfamily vlog from the other day, with Chris in Vancouver. Does anyone know why Kory is in the editing room all day? Does he help edit? That must really suck to be stuck there for the long days without even being part of the editing team. Has anyone ever addressed this?
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Post by dreamcatcher on Aug 2, 2017 4:13:51 GMT 10
I unsubbed from all her channels on YT but her high vlog came up in my rec's, and boredom got the better of me. If her shoulder is that bad, shouldn't she need surgery, or at the very least physical therapy? If she tore muscles, she needs to let them heal and then work on strengthening them and having things move in the correct ways... and if she was really in that much pain, she wouldn't vlog with that arm. If it was as bad as she makes it out to be she wouldn't be able to hold up that camera, every single day. Anything for clicks and views, I guess. I think she likes having the option of using her busted shoulder to get out of doing stuff she doesn't want to do (such as hugging fans and literally anything physical) and to get attention and sympathy. That's why she's getting a shoulder treatment that most likely does shit all. I also find it odd that every time she gets her shots, she has to zoom in on the puncture wounds. Almost as if she needs to give proof that she really got them either as a valid excuse or for sympathy. She's so dependent on the support and sympathy of others. You're a grown woman you've gotten them countless times, stop shoving your bony shoulder into the camera for us to see. Grow up and get your shots and stop complaining! MOST of the world hates needles and millions of people have the same phobia she does. Millions of people hate needles and pass out and need shots or blood work. She needs an abnormal amount of attention for such a normal problem that a huge portion of the population has. Ugh.
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Post by trubbled on Aug 2, 2017 4:15:49 GMT 10
Just watched the Bfamily vlog from the other day, with Chris in Vancouver. Does anyone know why Kory is in the editing room all day? Does he help edit? That must really suck to be stuck there for the long days without even being part of the editing team. Has anyone ever addressed this? He has to be immediately available for when the queent needs her Starbucks.
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Post by Vroomster on Aug 2, 2017 4:28:49 GMT 10
TIL Josh still follows Trent, and liked one of his weird tweets from yesterday. Can I just say that I've always liked Trent? He seems genuinely kind and just sort of went along with the family vids they threw him into, yet mainly did his own thing for the most part. I feel bad for him in many ways, but in my opinion the more you're left out of the youtube drama, the better. Josh seemed to be one of the few that actually treated him like a real person who didn't either a) ignore him or b) start every intro with 'Trent is deaf' or something. I haven't watched any of her videos in a couple years. Has he been seen at all?? I did see the cochlear implant one which was nice. Interesting how they later mentioned he turns it off a lot because of weird sounds (?) or something. Probably just to avoid all the outside-voice-indoors stuff going on there lol. But I'm also saying all this because I got a very, very bad vibe from Jessica early on. It was a Christmas video probably from 2010 or something, and Colleen was explaining her family tree situation basically. Jessica came out of nowhere (seemingly) all offended that people would ever assume Trent was her husband. I'm already a pretty highly sensitive person, so that could have been nothing, but something about her reaction really rubbed me the wrong way, so I've just had a bad feeling about her for a very long time. Plus that one time they went to DCA and 3-year-old Bailey goes up to the green army man to announce to the crowd "I don't eat sugar". I feel like they do most of that stuff to be hip SoCal parents or something for weird bragging rights considering they eat sugar themselves. He is very sweet and hates all the fame and YouTube stuff. He's been in the background of some vlogs. He was in the fourth of July vlog a good bit, Colleen actually talked to him in it.
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Post by Vroomster on Aug 2, 2017 4:30:11 GMT 10
Can I just say that I've always liked Trent? He seems genuinely kind and just sort of went along with the family vids they threw him into, yet mainly did his own thing for the most part. I feel bad for him in many ways, but in my opinion the more you're left out of the youtube drama, the better. Josh seemed to be one of the few that actually treated him like a real person who didn't either a) ignore him or b) start every intro with 'Trent is deaf' or something. I haven't watched any of her videos in a couple years. Has he been seen at all?? I did see the cochlear implant one which was nice. Interesting how they later mentioned he turns it off a lot because of weird sounds (?) or something. Probably just to avoid all the outside-voice-indoors stuff going on there lol. But I'm also saying all this because I got a very, very bad vibe from Jessica early on. It was a Christmas video probably from 2010 or something, and Colleen was explaining her family tree situation basically. Jessica came out of nowhere (seemingly) all offended that people would ever assume Trent was her husband. I'm already a pretty highly sensitive person, so that could have been nothing, but something about her reaction really rubbed me the wrong way, so I've just had a bad feeling about her for a very long time. Plus that one time they went to DCA and 3-year-old Bailey goes up to the green army man to announce to the crowd "I don't eat sugar". I feel like they do most of that stuff to be hip SoCal parents or something for weird bragging rights considering they eat sugar themselves. He is very sweet and hates all the fame and YouTube stuff. He's been in the background of some vlogs. He was in the fourth of July vlog a good bit, Colleen actually talked to him in it. The cochlear implant are much better. You have to get used to them and adjust the settings just right. He takes them off at night to charge the battery.
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Post by meg91 on Aug 2, 2017 4:34:44 GMT 10
The cochlear implant are much better. You have to get used to them and adjust the settings just right. He takes them off at night to charge the battery. Oh okay, thank you. I don't know much about them, so that makes sense. I'm sure it would indeed be a huge adjustment!
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Post by beckigreen101 on Aug 2, 2017 5:08:35 GMT 10
This may sound silly, but I wonder if Colleen had a secret crush on Erik, and when they had to do a kissing scene, she told someone that she felt something when they kissed. Maybe she texted someone about this and that's what started the whole cheating thing?
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Post by beamishly on Aug 2, 2017 5:15:01 GMT 10
This may sound silly, but I wonder if Colleen had a secret crush on Erik, and when they had to do a kissing scene, she told someone that she felt something when they kissed. Maybe she texted someone about this and that's what started the whole cheating thing? I think she had a crush on his and maybe she suggested the episode needed a kiss. A lot of people have pointed out Miranda showing affection (or at least kissing before marriage) is uncharacteristic of her. She probably said the kiss "needed to happen". Maybe they rehearsed said kiss on numerous occassions on their own time because they're just that dedicated to their craft.
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Post by anastasia on Aug 2, 2017 5:20:53 GMT 10
Wow that shoulder looks awful. I'm sure it is painful, I don't know why she doesn't just take the time to heal. Have the surgery, these injections are obviously not fixing the problem.
Also I agree she is painfully thin. She looks unwell. But I don't like people hating on me for having the opposite problem lol.
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Post by verukasalt on Aug 2, 2017 5:22:19 GMT 10
I don't have an exact timeline off top of my head. But they bought the house after she got the HBO contact but before she actually started auditioning/working on the pre-filming stuff. Her attitude towards Josh seemed to get really bad not long after that. When Josh was 'allowed' to travel with Rebecca without either Collie or one of her proxies... Thats when I knew she was done with Josh. Prior to that, if conflicting schedules prevented her from traveling with Josh, she'd always have Rachel or Chris go with Josh. Now you wouldn't buy an almost 3 million dollar home with someone you think you may be divorcing in near future.. And you wouldn't insist your husband NOT go with you to canada with you unless you had a reason to not want him to go. So..what happened between buying the house and her time to go to canada...she held auditions, casted, had meetings, tablereads, etc.. Sheer logic suggests something occurred during that time to make her lose all interest in Josh. They lived together for years, so it wasn't like she found out some horrid behavior once they were married.
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Post by lemdrops on Aug 2, 2017 5:22:32 GMT 10
You KNOW she wishes that was Kory instead of Todrick 😏
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Post by crissdank on Aug 2, 2017 5:26:18 GMT 10
Thoughts on chlorine's latest video?
I'm surprised she didn't blur out his face and name the video "MY NEW BOYFRIEND???!!!!!!!" Lol.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 5:31:22 GMT 10
Her comment on that video "This was SOOOOO HARD TO DOOOO! I do not recommend trying to kiss your gay best friend. lol" Um isn't Kory her "gay best friend"?
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Post by teaandstrumpets on Aug 2, 2017 5:41:38 GMT 10
Did ya'll see the description of the latest Begginger vid? LOL
"Chris is off galavanting in Canada (aka working hard & going for long walks on bridges), while Jessica sits in a chair and talks about furniture delivery."
They HAVE to be reading here!
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Post by randomer on Aug 2, 2017 5:42:36 GMT 10
Awww she's so considerate of josh!!!! (🙄) Lol god forbid if josh were to post a vid/pic of him kissing someone the minions would crap themselves. JOSH! If you're reading I would LOVE for you to kiss someone in your music vid(s)! (I nominate smash!)
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Post by AK713 on Aug 2, 2017 5:51:35 GMT 10
Thoughts on chlorine's latest video? I'm surprised she didn't blur out his face and name the video "MY NEW BOYFRIEND???!!!!!!!" Lol. Girl is completely out of content ideas. I know she said was Todrick's idea but to really be that out of content that you make a 5 minute video of you saying "Oh my god. I can't. I'm shaking, do you see my hands shaking, I'm shaking" and then kissing your gay friend for .5 seconds and then screaming like a 9 year old. That's stupid...
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Post by momof3 on Aug 2, 2017 6:00:17 GMT 10
If Jessica is struggling with postpartum depression or something then I feel bad for her. Otherwise I just don't understand why she has such a hard time taking care of her own kids. In the newest vlog she mentions Grace (baby sitter) and basically says the only reason Grace isn't coming the next two days that Chris is gone to Canada is because her sister in law is in labor. Then of course Gwen came over for the day and took Bailey and Parker with her back to her house for the night. I'm just curious why it seems like Jessica can't be alone with all of her kids and take care of them without needing help from someone else. It's not like a normal stay at home mom has a baby sitter come and help with their children, I mean unless I've been living under a rock my whole life. Did anyone else think it was funny when she said she'd texted Grace to ask if the baby had arrived & got no response? I have a very big feeling the Badingers are AWFUL to work for & the poor girl probably was like, "THIS IS MY ONE DAMN DAY OFF LEAVE ME ALONE!!" Also, had to roll my eyes when Messy went out of her way to make it sound like Bailey & Parker going to Gwen's was a spur of the moment decision. "Honey, we ALLL know you are too damn lazy to take care of your own kids, we KNOW the only reason Gwen came was to pick the kids up. I really cannot figure out why she continues to have more children when she can't even take care of the ones she has. She's legitimately the laziest mother I've ever seen. I am a SAHM with 3 kids & my husband works out of the home full time. I do all if the housework & all of the cooking & have never used a babysitter except for the times we've sent them to my mom's for a date night (which happens like twice a year, not twice a week like Chris & Mess). At the time my youngest was born, I had a newborn, 2yo & 3 1/2yo & my husband worked 10hr days/7days a week (half-days on Sun) & I still managed to take care of my children & home without needing a sitter or gramma to come to my rescue. All of my mommy friends do the same. Is it hard work & exhausting? You bet! But I signed up for it by reproducing & making the decision not to go back to work & raise my family instead. I don't know how Chris can stand her laziness & slobbery. Why isn't she doing the housework & cooking while he's editing? Why is he doing both of their duties? It doesn't seem to be PPD, because she's been this way as long as they've had a channel.
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Post by momof3 on Aug 2, 2017 6:08:59 GMT 10
Colleen's vlog: -Such a clickbaity, Liza's group title about getting high. -Where is Todrick? -What doc keeps giving shots like that and not doing some kind of permanent repair? She didn't need "a surgery" last year, but that kind of painful treatment, that must be $$$$$$, seems like it isn't working. Or maybe, like you guys wonder, it works because she is going on tour. She needs a new doctor if she is still getting shots that aren't repairing anything. I've felt for a long time that she has a pain pill addiction & her Dr is a quack & continuing to prescribe to her. Her not having complained about her shoulder in forever & now randomly having shots kind of confirms it to me. She's probably due for the token appt so her doctor can legally continue to justify refilling her Rx. Her glassy/blood shot eyes, mood swings, loss of appetite, erratic behavior, itchy nose, lack of effort on her YT content, ect. is what gave me the suspicions last winter & now after this vid, I'm pretty convinced.
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Post by momof3 on Aug 2, 2017 6:13:28 GMT 10
I find it so irritating,in her last vlog, that everyone who looks at her at the airport is judging her. Since when is someone glancing in your direction judging? I don't get it. Because when she looks at strangers, she's always judging them. So she, of course, assumes people are judging her. She doesn't realize they may just be glancing her way because they're intrigued by the person talking to a camera & that's it. Colleen - Not everyone is as judgemental of everyone they pass on the street as you are, henny.
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