Fraudleen and the bed free crabingers part 11

I have a private account, so I don't interact with Colleen's fans, but I don't think it's fair to call it "harassing". From what I see, the interactions are with people who are being real a-holes to Josh, not just Colleen fans innocently minding their own business.

Yeah I haven't seen any of y'all actually going HAM and full on attacking them. TBH y'all are just a bunch of smartasses like me...so far I haven't seen harassment from grannies only from minions....I hope y'all aren't actually being assholes though...that doesnt make us look any better than them. Being assholes is a minions work. Grannies are just smartasses.

I have not seen any grannies being assholes. I have seen a lot of people being assholes to Josh or to grannies, and in those cases, the grannies are either standing up for Josh or themselves. If you took a look at Josh's mentions and saw some of the disgusting things people say to him, you'd probably want to say something too. Bullying is disgusting and shouldn't go unchecked. If you look at Colleen's mentions, the negative comments pale in comparison to those Josh receives, and they never seem as vile or hurtful.

Aug 27, 2017 15:14:40 GMT 10 meowstache said:

Genuine question: for those of you harassing minions on Twitter, what do you plan to get out of it? Not a critcism, at all--I'm just curious. Do you want to piss them off, just defend Josh's honor, or do you genuinely hope to change their minds?

Genuinely want them to change their minds. Or eat their words.

Aug 27, 2017 15:30:44 GMT 10 randomer said:

Yeah I haven't seen any of y'all actually going HAM and full on attacking them. TBH y'all are just a bunch of smartasses like me...so far I haven't seen harassment from grannies only from minions....I hope y'all aren't actually being assholes though...that doesnt make us look any better than them. Being assholes is a minions work. Grannies are just smartasses.

You must not have found my Twitter 😉

Ugh, no harm meant, "harassing" was meant very flippantly. Obviously I'm here, I like sass, too. Whatever, my bad. My genuine intent was wondering why anyone chooses to engage, is all. Thanks for the answer, nolita! Like I said, nothing was meant by it.

Aug 27, 2017 15:30:44 GMT 10 randomer said:

Yeah I haven't seen any of y'all actually going HAM and full on attacking them. TBH y'all are just a bunch of smartasses like me...so far I haven't seen harassment from grannies only from minions....I hope y'all aren't actually being assholes though...that doesnt make us look any better than them. Being assholes is a minions work. Grannies are just smartasses.

I mean...I charged into the fray pretty hard last night hahaha. But all of it was countering the rude things they were saying to Josh (or when they got mad, myself).

Aug 27, 2017 15:14:40 GMT 10 meowstache said:

Genuine question: for those of you harassing minions on Twitter, what do you plan to get out of it? Not a critcism, at all--I'm just curious. Do you want to piss them off, just defend Josh's honor, or do you genuinely hope to change their minds?

My intention is to defend Josh's honor and also show them how ridiculous and unacceptable their behavior is. That if they want to try and act big and bad on the internet, people will say and do something about it. They like to try and pull the omg I can't believe you're being mean to a child card but they have no problems trying to act like they're adult enough to tell Josh how he should live his life and make death threats.

Aug 27, 2017 15:53:38 GMT 10 meowstache said:

Ugh, no harm meant, "harassing" was meant very flippantly. Obviously I'm here, I like sass, too. Whatever, my bad. My genuine intent was wondering why anyone chooses to engage, is all. Thanks for the answer, nolita! Like I said, nothing was meant by it.

Generally I don't comment at all. Yesterday was just disgusting. I made some choice comments purely to defend josh. If they weren't open I dropped it. They are literal kids so I mean shit, what do you say? Some of them were even right.

I went in on someone today (who was an adult minion) because he was rude to rachel and I ain't about that. I was either going to have a proper conversation or shut him up. He now has proof about cabingate that he could barely deny and we shut him up.

Aug 27, 2017 16:07:30 GMT 10 ratchetrachel said:

Aug 27, 2017 15:14:40 GMT 10 meowstache said:

Genuine question: for those of you harassing minions on Twitter, what do you plan to get out of it? Not a critcism, at all--I'm just curious. Do you want to piss them off, just defend Josh's honor, or do you genuinely hope to change their minds?

My intention is to defend Josh's honor and also show them how ridiculous and unacceptable their behavior is. That if they want to try and act big and bad on the internet, people will say and do something about it. They like to try and pull the omg I can't believe you're being mean to a child card but they have no problems trying to act like they're adult enough to tell Josh how he should live his life and make death threats.

Hey, and that's rad! I think you're right in that they have no problem bullying, but pull some shit when they get called out.

As I said above, I think my first comment was misinterpreted--I wasn't calling it wrong to reply (and, as I said, shouldn't have used "harass," didn't mean it that way), I just wondered what the intended effect was. 

meowstache, thanks for clarifying. I'm a writer, so words are important to me, and I tend to want to use the right word to express exactly what I mean or I interpret words based on their very specific meaning / intended use. I forget sometimes that others don't have the same focus.

Josh established a high degree of credibility and honor in the vlog posted on August 17, 2015. Colleen created a high degree of marital confusion in the vlog posted on March 22, 2016. I continue to question why Josh takes the time to communicate with the children -- it's like talking to the wall. That is why children are generally held to a lower standard of responsibility under the law.  Josh, on any given topic, just post a single, well written, clear statement and be done with it!  Said statement may be subject to clarification by Josh at a later date, but not debate.

Aug 27, 2017 16:31:43 GMT 10 wgaf said:

Josh established a high degree of credibility and honor in the vlog posted on August 17, 2015. Colleen created a high degree of marital confusion in the vlog posted on March 22, 2016. I continue to question why Josh takes the time to communicate with the children -- it's like talking to the wall. That is why children are generally held to a lower standard of responsibility under the law.  Josh, on any given topic, just post a single, well written, clear statement and be done with it!  Said statement may be subject to clarification by Josh at a later date, but not debate.

I agree. I think it's hard when he's already feeling emotional to not lash out at them when they say awful things, but I suspect that's something he's trying or will try to work on. Sometimes I want to yell at them too, and I don't have nearly the emotional investment Josh does, so I get it. But what you said is true.

Aug 27, 2017 16:26:04 GMT 10 bixie said:

meowstache, thanks for clarifying. I'm a writer, so words are important to me, and I tend to want to use the right word to express exactly what I mean or I interpret words based on their very specific meaning / intended use. I forget sometimes that others don't have the same focus.

Words are important to me too, as I am someone with advanced studies in writing and literature, so I suppose I am embarassed by my carelessness; I tend to be not paying full attention while writing a quick comment on an online message board. Ah, well, I've detracted and distracted from this board enough tonight, and will take my leave. Glad I was able to clarify for you, bixie (and anyone else that may have been bothered).

Is she blind?? Her brows look "spermier" than ever in her latest IG pic, and again you can CLEARLY see the line between real and fake where she started overfilling.

Aug 27, 2017 15:14:40 GMT 10 meowstache said:

Genuine question: for those of you harassing minions on Twitter, what do you plan to get out of it? Not a critcism, at all--I'm just curious. Do you want to piss them off, just defend Josh's honor, or do you genuinely hope to change their minds?

I wondered the same. I thought that's why this forum was here so everyone could gossip about Colleen away from the minions and their madness.

someone suddenly is trying to give off the idea that’s she’s really wanting a baby...

Aug 27, 2017 18:01:16 GMT 10 luckyscout said:

Aug 27, 2017 15:14:40 GMT 10 meowstache said:

Genuine question: for those of you harassing minions on Twitter, what do you plan to get out of it? Not a critcism, at all--I'm just curious. Do you want to piss them off, just defend Josh's honor, or do you genuinely hope to change their minds?

I wondered the same. I thought that's why this forum was here so everyone could gossip about Colleen away from the minions and their madness.

I mean it's a once off because there was big josh drama, however if y'all don't wanna see minion comments unless it directly relates to colleen we can figure something out for it. It's up to the community as a whole though

I understand that Josh, and some of the grandmas on Twitter are trying to show the children Colleen's hypocrisy.

I am not as invested in this that I feel the need to speak up on Twitter. But, I think the children just need to be told: "What you are doing/saying is bullying/harrasment towards Josh. Didn't Colleen say to lay off Josh?" or something along those lines.

I feel the minions will never heed "the other side". So, the better approach is to point out that what they are doing is bullying and that Colleen doesn't want that.

Aug 27, 2017 18:50:01 GMT 10 Tuskvegas said:

Aug 27, 2017 18:01:16 GMT 10 luckyscout said:

I wondered the same. I thought that's why this forum was here so everyone could gossip about Colleen away from the minions and their madness.

I mean it's a once off because there was big josh drama, however if y'all don't wanna see minion comments unless it directly relates to colleen we can figure something out for it. It's up to the community as a whole though

I personally say leave the kids out of it. Twitter is for the kids, Garden is for the adults. I come here to laugh at & occasionally rant about the ridiculous Ballinger family freak show. I could care less about twitter comments or interacting with any of these people.

Maybe the Garden should periodically post messages specifically directed at the children -- an adult/child discussion.

Aug 27, 2017 20:18:29 GMT 10 wgaf said:

Maybe the Garden should periodically post messages specifically directed at the children -- an adult/child discussion.

Unfortunately, that would never work. The children causing the problems are the type who are totally disinterested in a discussion. We had the love thread, where they were more than welcome to discuss Colleen positives, however, it never got used, which is fair enough.

How about messages from the Garden to the children that are not intended to instigate a discussion?

Aug 27, 2017 20:40:45 GMT 10 Tuskvegas said:

Aug 27, 2017 20:18:29 GMT 10 wgaf said:

Maybe the Garden should periodically post messages specifically directed at the children -- an adult/child discussion.

Unfortunately, that would never work. The children causing the problems are the type who are totally disinterested in a discussion. We had the love thread, where they were more than welcome to discuss Colleen positives, however, it never got used, which is fair enough.

Well it's hard to talk about the positives when there aren't any 😏😁

I feel that those who want to speak to mean minions on Twitter should. We have no idea how close some maybe to being out of the the colleen fog. They may not even be who would be interacted with, it may happen to someone just observing. I personally feel I would be better suited for reporting the really mean comments and leave it up to twitter. Then tweet to josh offering encouragement, basically ignoring the kids. I don't believe the garden as the garden should talk to them, we aren't their parents.

On Twitter,I don't go toe to toe with the minions because I'm a big p***y. Haha.

But, I do tweet mean stuff to Colleen sometimes. My goal is to get her to block me without me getting kicked off of Twitter. I'll let you all know.

^^^ lol that reminds me! Last night I saw some minions literally @ing josh saying "BLOCK ME CUNT!"...I have no idea how josh puts up with all this stuff. As weird as it sounds I sometimes wish he'd delete his twitter and make a new one.

Btw, Rachel's new vlog:

She is FURIOUS they won't let male pit bulls at the doggie day care.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE dogs. Blaze seems really sweet. But, she should have known that, justified or not, businesses have their policies about pit bulls.

Some insurance companies won't insure a homeowner for dog bites if they own a pit bull. It isn't about if that is fair or not, it just is what it is.

I don't have a pit, but even I know there are struggles those with other breeds don't have. I would know that going into dog ownership, Rachel.

Be mad at yourself, Rachel.

Aug 28, 2017 0:03:45 GMT 10 ihateukuleles said:

Btw, Rachel's new vlog:

She is FURIOUS they won't let male pit bulls at the doggie day care.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE dogs. Blaze seems really sweet. But, she should have known that, justified or not, businesses have their policies about pit bulls.

Some insurance companies won't insure a homeowner for dog bites if they own a pit bull. It isn't about if that is fair or not, it just is what it is.

I don't have a pit, but even I know there are struggles those with other breeds don't have. I would know that going into dog ownership, Rachel.

Be mad at yourself, Rachel.

Yeah, I agree with this. I don't blame her for being annoyed about it (because the breed shouldn't be singled out like that- dogs of any breed can be aggressive and most pit bulls are not aggressive) but it is a reality that there are rules at most places that prohibit a lot of what he'll be able to do or where he can go. She should do some research on doggy day cares, there are places that evaluate on a dog by dog basis rather than by breed. And if she's looking to by a house she should research insurance companies that will insure terriers for a decent price. It makes sense, but I had no idea your dog would be factored into your homeowner's policy price when I bought my house.

Aug 27, 2017 21:29:02 GMT 10 butterflysdream said:

I feel that those who want to speak to mean minions on Twitter should. We have no idea how close some maybe to being out of the the colleen fog. They may not even be who would be interacted with, it may happen to someone just observing. I personally feel I would be better suited for reporting the really mean comments and leave it up to twitter. Then tweet to josh offering encouragement, basically ignoring the kids. I don't believe the garden as the garden should talk to them, we aren't their parents.

Yeah, I only tweet encouragement and support to Josh and try to ignore the rest, except for reporting the really offensive ones. I just cannot handle the lack of critical thinking and common sense. Hopefully, the supportive tweets help Josh a little.